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Friday, August 14, 2009

End of Week Stupid Roundup

Sometimes the stupid runs so deep that instead of blogging about it, I just want to scrape up its stinking carcass with a shovel and chuck it into the woods to rot in peace. For instance, it ought to be obvious to everyone—except the most prejudiced jerks—that the fact that mass murderers are antisocial creeps does not mean they are autistic. However, looking at the comments on a recent post on Sarah's blog goes to show that there's no shortage of prejudiced jerks.

And where might one expect to find an article that advocates killing off people with disabilities to save money for health care for everyone else? If you guessed a neo-Nazi newsletter or a Klan website, that would be a logical enough guess, but wrong. Actually, to the great disgust of many, it appeared in the New York Times Magazine. You know, when governments run short on money for highway maintenance, you don't see mainstream publications printing articles that suggest killing off rural folks to save the wear on the roads... and when the fire department needs a new truck, nobody proposes whacking a few smokers to reduce the number of fires...

Did you think we'd seen the last of billboards describing autistic children as kidnap victims when the Ransom Notes ads were taken down in 2007? Well, as Joe just blogged, there's plenty more of the putrefying stupid where that came from. This time, the culprit is the York, PA chapter of the Autism Society of America. E-mail address is pa-york@autismsocietyofamerica.org and the chapter president is Amy Wallace. Time to let her know what we think of that tired old stolen child changeling garbage.

Edit, August 16: ASA York has agreed to take down the billboards—many thanks to ASAN and to everyone who wrote about the billboards!

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44 Comments:

  • That was, of course, the straight-up-stupid Lurker posting as "Comet". The weasel stole my cat's name off my blog. Sarah banned him as a troll, and Thelma banned him as a hopeless dumbass.

    There's no use talking to him at all, people, all he wants to do is to say outrageous things to get people to argue with him. That's what trolls do, please don't feed him!

    I'll write to that ASA address.

    By Blogger Clay, at 2:25 AM  

  • "That was, of course, the straight-up-stupid Lurker posting as 'Comet'"

    FIGJAM

    (Fuck, I'm Good. Just Ask Me!)

    By Blogger David N. Andrews M. Ed. (Distinction), at 7:18 AM  

  • This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

    By Blogger Foresam, at 8:46 AM  

  • Foresam:

    Ya ain't even close to bein a decent human bein, ya know that, right? Gotta reckon that abfh ain't see your nastiness yet and when she does it will go poof.

    By Blogger Thelma, at 9:08 AM  

  • We live in a highly violentized society, where so many people have been conditioned into believing that violence (killing people, insulting people) is the way to go, and where those who aren't angry enough to want to hurt someone are so desensitized to violence in all its forms that they don't even see it as such, so they look the other way. It's not just stupidity - it's completely unnecessary cultural norms. (this in replacement of a snarky and useless comment I almost submitted)

    By Blogger Anemone, at 10:38 AM  

  • Thelma, I've told Foresam that any comments he posts here will go poof, but he doesn't seem to have gotten that concept through his skull yet.

    By Blogger abfh, at 12:22 PM  

  • Anemone, I once read that there are a few small tribal societies in isolated areas that have such peaceful cultures, they don't even have words in their languages for intentionally hurting other humans.

    By Blogger abfh, at 12:51 PM  

  • David said:
    FIGJAM

    (Fuck, I'm Good. Just Ask Me!)


    BIB

    (But I'm better.) ;-)

    David, I recognized him right away.
    I posted a comment there to you, saying something like, "Doncha ever get tired of arguing with this useless POS? (piece of shit) But it didn't get posted for some reason. Really, saying anything to him is an exercise in futility.

    By Blogger Clay, at 1:51 PM  

  • It really wouldn't be much of a "Stupid Roundup" without John Best making an appearance, would it? He really illustrates the meaning of the phrase, "sometimes the stupid runs so deep".

    By Blogger Clay, at 2:09 PM  

  • Clay, please don't dignify those trolls with their names unless it's necessary. They get too much attention anyway. *rolls eyes*

    By Anonymous Sadderbutwisergirl, at 4:42 PM  

  • Most tribal societies are violent chaotic messes, but maybe there are a few peaceful ones. I bet if they exist they live somewhere nice.

    By Blogger Anemone, at 10:42 PM  

  • I really have to wonder if people who like the idea of killing off those with disabilities to "save the resources for" non-disabled people... realize that anyone can become disabled at any time.

    Vehicular accidents, animal attacks, work-related accidents, illnesses, these things happen. Strokes, too (and not just to the elderly, for anybody who might be thinking on those lines). You can be born in a healthy body with two arms, two legs, and all the other things in the expected number and places, and those can be lost through accident or illness. Anybody can become brain-damaged, paralyzed, or lose a limb (or several limbs).

    So these "screw the disabled" attitudes seem a lot to me like also saying "screw me if I ever get in an accident or get seriously ill."

    So it goes beyond just being unethical. It's like they're not even thinking of their own possible futures.

    By Blogger Fleecy, at 6:56 AM  

  • Thanks for highlighting the billboard thing. As I'm sure you've already heard, the York, PA ASA chapter has very quickly decided to remove the billboards in question.

    A bright spot to begin the week with.

    Joe

    By Blogger Club 166, at 5:51 PM  

  • Hey didn't I put a post here yesterday?

    By Blogger Timelord, at 7:41 AM  

  • Timelord, no, I haven't deleted any comments in this thread other than Best's.

    By Blogger abfh, at 8:42 AM  

  • I'll bet that at least one person was called a dumb broad and there was at least one comment about someone's brain not working right. If a comment has one of these two, it's obviously John Best. It's as obvious as a muddy fingerprint.

    By Anonymous Sadderbutwisergirl, at 11:32 AM  

  • @Timelord - I think maybe you posted under the previous blog post, "A Bit of Neighborly Advice". Does that solve it?

    By Blogger Clay, at 1:58 PM  

  • @sadderbutwisergirl - wasn't it You who objected to the naming of trolls?

    By Blogger Clay, at 2:01 PM  

  • @Clay: Just to clarify, I only object to naming trolls if it's unnecessary. abfh mentioned deleting comments by one of our least favorite trolls and I was stating some of his catch phrases and musing that he may have used some of them. It was necessary to mention his name so as not to confuse people.

    By Anonymous Sadderbutwisergirl, at 3:42 PM  

  • @Timelord - I think maybe you posted under the previous blog post, "A Bit of Neighborly Advice". Does that solve it?

    No it doesn't. I could have sworn I put a post on this thread in reply to your opening post about "Comet" AKA Lurker. And as ABFH didn't delete it......

    Odd!

    As I recall it was a repeat on the call to run Lurker out of the community. Whenever you see him anywhere spouting his junk - link the blog owner to my article on him, and that posting of Sarah's that ABFH linked as well.

    By Blogger Timelord, at 8:33 AM  

  • dunno if anyone's been watching the aspieweb thing of late; but weird shit has gone down and it isn't good. and someone has seen fit to try to holy himself up and eulogise a young man to whom he'd otherwise the the epitome of a complete and utter intolerant bastard. you all know who i mean, without me having to mention the disingenuous shite's name.

    what kinda of sick piece of shite tried to make political capital out of the ending of a life he was party to making shitty enough to end? and then has the fucking gall to blame me for not 'getting involved as a caring psychologist'?!

    i've enough shit going on just now trying to get the right fucking services without that bastard pulling shite stunts like that. the fucking warped excuse for a wasted wank.

    By Blogger David N. Andrews M. Ed. (Distinction), at 12:06 PM  

  • Uh, David, I've seen it and I was horrified to see that he wrote it. It was such an utter dishonor to Zach's memory that I felt the need to make up for the damage by writing this. I won't even mention that bastard's name, for to do so would be worse than spitting upon Zach's dead body. I'd better go cry now...

    By Anonymous Sadderbutwisergirl, at 1:02 PM  

  • sbwg,

    thank you for your response, and for writing in the forum that poem. i locked horns with him on maybe one or two issues but nothing nasty. i respected him for showing what his life was like, even with certain out-and-out bastard vultures about on the net. i was also stunned and shocked to the core by what was posted.

    i'm glad you agree with me on what i said about that stenching piece of shit who hijacked Zack's death for political points... i am saddened by this lad's departure and mortified that anyone would shit on his memory in such a way.

    it's a fucking shitty world we're living in.

    sbwg, cry it out, hen; and - again -thank you for your response.

    By Blogger David N. Andrews M. Ed. (Distinction), at 1:34 PM  

  • You're welcome, David and today is day one of my action of wearing all black for 23 days, one day for each year of his life plus for one incomplete day for the incomplete 24th year of his life. All I ask is that anyone who wants to honor Zach's memory post a link to that poem I wrote.

    By Anonymous Sadderbutwisergirl, at 1:46 PM  

  • NEWS!

    "AspieWeb is currently offline. Please try your request later."


    :/

    By Blogger David N. Andrews M. Ed. (Distinction), at 4:58 PM  

  • Update on Zach: He did not follow through with his suicide plans, thankfully, and is still with us. At present he is trying to get things straightened out in his life before he does any more posting on his website.

    By Blogger abfh, at 5:16 PM  

  • "He did not follow through with his suicide plans, thankfully, and is still with us."

    THANK FUCK FOR THAT!!!!!!

    *wipes brow*

    "At present he is trying to get things straightened out in his life before he does any more posting on his website."

    Let's hope he gets some proper support this time.

    (excellent word verification: caring)!

    By Blogger David N. Andrews M. Ed. (Distinction), at 5:27 PM  

  • And he gets Katelyn away from that witch of a "Legal Guardian"!

    I was all set to let fly at the person who used the thing to attack us as a group.

    I echo David's capital letter utterance.

    By Blogger Timelord, at 7:14 PM  

  • Oh my goodness. Thank God he didn't follow through with that. Then Katelyn's mother would have won and would have the ability to do whatever she liked. At least with Zach around, he can help Katelyn to be free of that witch who calls herself Kate's mother and take up guardianship for the baby since Kate gave up her parental rights. If Zach was gone, the abuse would have went on to the next generation.

    By Anonymous Sadderbutwisergirl, at 8:15 PM  

  • "I was all set to let fly at the person who used the thing to attack us as a group."

    Fucking idiot still expects me to have done something. I'll have to prep something specific to show why I couldn't 'get involved'; but my feeling is that the bastard concerned is trying to avoid facing any sort of guilt that should be attached to him for having been a complete and utter twat towards Zach during the times that he'd (Zack) been experiencing the brunt of this crisis.

    On aina löydettävinä maan päällä tuollaisia vittupäitä kuin juhani paras ja hänen kaltaiset. Vitun valitettavasti niin!

    (do a google translate, it'll be good enough, although the errors will be in google translate)

    By Blogger David N. Andrews M. Ed. (Distinction), at 9:06 PM  

  • If you're calling that turd an SOB, than hear hear, David. I checked over at the blog and the SOB who shall not be named was blaming Zach's dreadful plight on neurodiversity.

    By Anonymous Sadderbutwisergirl, at 7:27 AM  

  • Zach shot a good one back at him, SBWG! I posted a support message for Zach (after a quick sentence at the SOB). Hopefully he lets it through.

    By Blogger Timelord, at 7:37 AM  

  • hiya sbwg...

    "If you're calling that turd an SOB, than hear hear, David."

    Actually... very close to the mark! The only thing closer would be the actual phrase 'huoran poika' itself!

    "I checked over at the blog and the SOB who shall not be named was blaming Zach's dreadful plight on neurodiversity."

    Yeh... as is his feeble-minded wont.

    We have better things to discuss than him, though. We know what sorts of things were behind Zack's plight... they were all over his blog! And 'neurodiversity' was not one of them. On the other hand, the following definitely seemed to be:

    * societal attitudes at the societal level (i. e., culture) towards autistics;
    * societal attitudes at individual level (i. e., mind) towards autistics;
    * levels of support for autistics in all walks of life.

    Maybe Huoran Poika can't read too well, eh?

    By Blogger David N. Andrews M. Ed. (Distinction), at 7:41 AM  

  • Guys, we all know he writes that garbage just to annoy us and to get attention. Let's not give him what he wants.

    For the same reason, I shouldn't have mentioned another troll's comments in my Stupid Roundup, either. Mea culpa.

    By Blogger abfh, at 10:37 AM  

  • Okay, now what's going on with Zach? Check out his site again....

    By Blogger Timelord, at 6:57 PM  

  • @abfh: We're all human and sometimes, we get so pissed at a troll that we end up forgetting ourselves and angrily shoot some virtual tale-bombs in the form of splashing their misdeeds all over our mediums of communication, meanwhile forgetting that we're giving the bastards exactly what they want: attention

    By Anonymous Sadderbutwisergirl, at 7:15 PM  

  • Timelord and ABFH

    I'm backing off of Best. Timelord knows how to keep control with this man. I do not. I'm saying nothing to the man. In trying to defeat the man I became more and more angrier until I hated the man.

    In trying to fight this man I almost became the very thing I hated. I almost became Best. My anger will go out of control if I engage him again so I'm engaging him no more.

    I will logically take to task things that people like him believe in a more systemic and theoretical way. I will bash concepts and ideas, not people.

    I'm putting more positive and constructive crap as well. I say we need more of that.

    By Blogger Cube Demon, at 7:45 PM  

  • @David: I wouldn't exactly swear off of attacking people. Well, maybe you shouldn't be going on and on about what a bastard someone is on a regular basis, but you can still have a little lighthearted fun at their expense. A few years ago, our friend abfh wrote this "Getting Religion" post where she made fun of all the mercury peeps and had the Deacon saying, "ALA is God! There is no God but ALA! Bow humbly before the sacred altar on which standeth the holy bottles of common dietary supplements! Empty thine pockets into the collection plate! Amen!" and other ridiculous things. Read it. It's hilarious as heck.

    By Anonymous Sadderbutwisergirl, at 9:31 PM  

  • hello... hapi blogging... have a nice day! just visiting here....

    By Blogger Hapi, at 1:00 AM  

  • @Hapi: Hey there. I saw your blog and I found it to be quite interesting. I once took a course specializing in html and javascript code when I was in seventh grade and I hope to open up a blog soon, so I decided to read your posts in depth.

    By Anonymous Sadderbutwisergirl, at 1:09 AM  

  • "@David: I wouldn't exactly swear off of attacking people. Well, maybe you shouldn't be going on and on about what a bastard someone is on a regular basis, but you can still have a little lighthearted fun at their expense."

    Well, last couple of days, said fuck-pig has been demonstrating his 'knowledge' about psychology and statistics... three guesses as to how much he actually understands....

    By Blogger David N. Andrews M. Ed. (Distinction), at 9:26 PM  

  • @David: Here are my three guesses:
    1) Squat
    2) Nothing
    3) Zilch
    Are any of them correct? When your multiple guesses are essentially the same thing, you take the risk that you'll get all of them wrong. On the bright side, you get extra points if all of them are right. I sure hope it's the latter. :)

    By Anonymous Sadderbutwisergirl, at 10:32 PM  

  • sbwg,

    i'd give you bonus points but you missed a pair of corkers that billy connolly used once: 'the centre of a doughnut' and 'fuck all'; but a good three points are yours for the taking.

    if abfh will permit, just a couple of examples will follow:

    * I understand that pseudointellectuals think that "normal limits" can be determined through testing. True intellectuals rely on observation since we know that tests are not a valid measure of anything besides ability to pass the test.

    given that 'normal limits' are a statistical device based on test results, they are basically determined through testing; and the standardised tests used to find things out in clinical and educational psychology are not pass or fail issues... if he knew anything even from the most introductory text on psychology, he'd know that.

    * Freud is beyond your comprehension, David. Stick to tabulating results of rats earning pellets. That's about all psychology is useful for anyhow. It's no more valid than reading tea leaves.

    i understood Freud all right, actually; as for the rats and pellets, that had some use in determining that - even with rats and cats and pigeons - the reinforcer had to be something that made sense to the organism whose behaviour was being reinforced... no point giving a pigeon praise since it doesn't understand the cultural significance of being praised for an action. and if psychology were no more valid than reading tea-leaves, then education itself would be an impossible activity... much of the research conducted into didactics is in fact psychological, since it involves examination of methods of teaching and how permanent a change in behaviour ensues after a course of instruction... and that involves making predictions and testing them... and that of course requires statistical analysis.

    i'd actually go further and suggest that it was vital to get to the individual experience as well... what made it easier to learn something the one way that was hard to learn another way? that's a question we need to answer in educational research, and - although it's a psychological issue - the methods used need to be pretty much anthropological.

    so, my guess at what sort of student this mockey's cock would have made of himself... a fucking useless one!

    he couldn't even learn his own bloody name if the nuns hadn't beat the living fuck out of him with rosary beads! they nust have thought he was the devil incarnate. they're not to be blamed... he probably is.

    By Blogger David N. Andrews M. Ed. (Distinction), at 3:59 AM  

  • You missed on "Goose Egg", "Nada" and "Zip", SBWG and David!

    And the devil incarnate, David? Satan would have thrown him out of the pit if you ask me!

    By Blogger Timelord, at 9:13 AM  

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